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FORMULA 1 GRAND PRIX DU CANADA 2011











The Track




Race Date:    12 Jun 2011
Circuit Name:    Circuit Gilles-Villeneuve
Number of Laps:    70
Circuit Length:    4.361 km
Race Distance:    305.270 km
Lap Record:    1:13.622 - R Barrichello (2004)

Full Throttle: 57%
Brake Wear: High
Tyre Compounds: Super Soft / Medium
Downforce Level: Low 3/10
Tyre Usage: High
Average Speed: 201kph (125mph)












History

The early Canadian Grand Prix was one of the premier events of the new Canadian Sports Car Championship, a series which had been created alongside the Canadian Grand Prix at Mosport in 1961. Several international sports car as well as Formula One drivers participated in the event. For the first five years, the event would be won by drivers with either prior Formula One experience, or would enter the championship after winning the Canadian Grand Prix. In 1966 the Canadian-American Challenge Cup ran the event, with American Mark Donohue winning. Formula One took over the following year, although the CSCC and Can-Am series continued to compete at Mosport in their own events.

The first winner in Montreal was Quebec native Gilles Villeneuve who died in 1982 on the final qualifying lap for the Belgian Grand Prix. A few weeks after his death, the race course in Montreal was named Circuit Gilles Villeneuve after him. Gilles Villeneuve was one of the first inducted into the Canadian Motorsport Hall of Fame, and the only Canadian winner at the Circuit Gilles Villeneuve.

The 1982 Canadian Grand Prix, in the shadow of the death of Villeneuve a month earlier, saw another accident when Villeneuve's teammate Didier Pironi stalled on the grid. Raul Boesel struck the stationary vehicle, and Riccardo Paletti then struck the rear of Pironi's Ferrari. Pironi and F1 doctor Sid Watkins came to Paletti's aid to try to extract him from his car, which briefly caught fire. After a half hour, Paletti was extracted and flown to a nearby hospital, where he succumbed to his injuries.

In 1987, the race was not held due to sponsorship dispute between two local breweries, Labatt and Molson. During the break the track was modified, and starting line moved to its current position.

Ferrari's Jean Alesi won the 1995 edition, which occurred on his 31st birthday and which would be the only win of his career. Alesi had inherited the lead when Michael Schumacher pitted with electrical problems and Damon Hill's hydraulics failed. the victory was a popular one for Alesi, particularly after several unrewarded drives the year before, namely in Italy. Alesi's win at Montreal was voted the most popular race victory of the season by many, as it was the number 27 Ferrari—once belonging to the famous Gilles Villeneuve at his much loved home Grand Prix. Schumacher gave Alesi a lift back to the pits after Alesi's car ran out of fuel just before the Pits Hairpin.

The 1997 Canadian Grand Prix was stopped early due to a crash involving Olivier Panis. He was sidelined for nine races and some see it as a turning point in the career of the 1996 Monaco Grand Prix winner.

In 1999, the final corner of Circuit Gilles Villeneuve became well-known for crashes involving former World Champions. Damon Hill, Michael Schumacher and Jacques Villeneuve all crashed into the same wall which had the slogan Bienvenue au Québec (Welcome to Quebec in English) on it. The wall became ironically known as the "Wall of Champions". The wall also was involved in a crash with Ricardo Zonta, who was, at the time, the reigning FIA GT sports car champion. In recent years, GP2 Champion Nico Rosberg and CART Champion Juan Pablo Montoya have also fallen victim to the wall.

In 2001, there was the first sibling 1–2 finish in the history of Formula 1, as Ralf and Michael Schumacher topped the podium. The Schumacher brothers would finish 1–2 in the 2003 edition as well. 2001 was also noted for Jean Alesi achieving Prost's best finish of the season; he celebrated his fifth place by doing several donuts in his vehicle, and throwing his helmet into the crowd.

The 2007 race was the site of rookie Lewis Hamilton's first win. On lap 67, Takuma Sato overtook McLaren-Mercedes's Fernando Alonso, to cheers around the circuit, just after overtaking Ralf Schumacher and having overtaken Ferrari's Kimi Räikkönen earlier in the race. The race saw Sato move from the middle of the grid to the back of the pack and to a high of fifth before a pit-stop error caused him to move back to eleventh. Sato fought up 5 places in the field in the last 15 laps to finish sixth. Sato was voted "Driver of the Day" on the ITV website over Lewis Hamilton's first win. The race also saw a horrific incident involving Robert Kubica (who went on to win the race the following season).

In the weeks leading up the Grand Prix, city officials trap as many groundhogs as they can in and around the race course, and transport the animals to nearby Ile Ste-Helene. Nonetheless, in 2007, a groundhog disrupted the practice session of Ralf Schumacher. On race day itself, Anthony Davidson had been running in third until he struck a groundhog, initially thought to be a beaver, which forced him to pit and repair the damage to his front wing. In 2008, a groundhog crossed the track at the hairpin in the 2nd practice session but luckily did not disrupt the session.

Recent developments

On October 7, 2008, the Canadian Grand Prix was dropped from the 2009 Formula One calendar, which left the Montreal race off the list for the first time since 1987. In the provisional 2009 schedule released in June 2008, the Canadian Grand Prix was to have been held on June 7, a date taken by the 2009 Turkish Grand Prix in the revised schedule.

Since the US Grand Prix was dropped after 2007, this means that in 2009 no Formula One race was held in North America for the first time since 1958. (The American Indianapolis 500 formed part of the FIA World Drivers' Championship from 1950 to 1960, but was not run to Formula One regulations and only very rarely entered by regular championship competitors.)

During the Australian Grand Prix, reports surfaced that the Canadian Grand Prix could return during the 2009 season in the event that the race circuit in Abu Dhabi was not ready in time. On April 26, 2009, Speed reported Bernie Ecclestone as saying the FIA was negotiating a return of the Canadian Grand Prix for the 2010 season, provided upgrades to the circuit are completed.

On August 29, 2009, the BBC reported the provisional schedule for the 2010 season, which had both the Canadian and British Grand Prix marked down as "provisional". The Canadian GP was scheduled for June 6. The 2010 Canadian Grand Prix was eventually run in Montreal on June 13, 2010.

On November 27, 2009, Quebec's officials and Canadian Grand Prix organizers announced they have reached a settlement with Formula One Administration and signed a new five-year contract spanning the 2010-2014 seasons. Under the five-year agreement, the governments will pay 15 million Canadian dollars a year to host the race, much less than the 35 million a year Ecclestone initially asked for.








The Technology

Tyres:

Canada is one of the most complex tracks of the year to predict due to its wide variety of grip levels and inconsistent surfaces. This results in a high and sometimes uneven amount of tyre wear, putting the accent firmly on durability and strategy. Tyre wear is a critical factor at the Montreal circuit, traditionally making Canada one of the most entertaining races of the year. Since its inauguration in 1978, the track has undergone a number of changes, notably some resurfacing before last year’s grand prix and the addition of some new and higher kerbs in 2005: both of which influence the way that the tyres behave.

With the track hosting only two major races per season – Formula One and NASCAR – there is a marked evolution in terms of grip over the course of the weekend as more rubber gets laid down on the surface. On Friday, drivers will be given two additional sets of Pirelli’s new medium compound slicks to evaluate for the future during the two free practice sessions.

Aero:

The minimal downforce nature of the circuit requires teams to optimise engine performance and reduce drag where possible to accelerate quickly out of the slow corners or chicanes, power down the straight and remain stable under braking to negotiate the next sequence of the lap. The availability and performance of DRS wings will be important for those teams still engaged in developing their cars. The entire lap is completed in less than 80 seconds and while the engine is only run at full throttle for around 60% of the lap, top end performance will be important, something that Cosworth engines should relish.

Engine/Drivetrain:

The return of the Canadian Grand Prix has restored one of the sport’s best loved races to the Formula One calendar, but it also brings back one of the most technically demanding power circuits. The composition of long straights and slow corners demands an efficient low downforce car set-up with excellent stability under braking, coupled with good traction sustained through the corner and good engine torque when exiting. The lap is very stop-start and thus one of the toughest circuits on brakes and engines, requiring engineers to pay close attention to brake wear and engine telemetry throughout the 70 laps.




The Schedule

Thursday 09th June
15:00: FIA press conference

Friday 10th June
10:00 - 11:30 - First free practice
14:00 - 15:30 - Second free practice
16:00 - FIA press conference

Saturday 11th June
10:00 - 11:00 - Third free practice
13:00 - 14:00 - Qualifying
14:00 - FIA post qualifying press conference

Sunday 12th June
13:00 - 15:00 - Canadian GP
15:00 - FIA post race press conference


All times Montreal local.






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Canada to have two DRS activation zones

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Friday 20th May 2011

The Canadian Grand Prix will be the first race to feature two drag-reduction (DRS) zones, the FIA's Charlie Whiting has confirmed

Whilst in essence it will be one zone, separated by the turn 12 chicane, drivers will be allowed to activate their wing twice.

The detection zone will be placed just after turn ten, before the cars can activate their wing exiting turn 11 which quickly follows ten and is only a minor kink, before it closes automatically when they brake for turn 12.

They can then reactivate it as they exit turn 12, crossing the start/finish line up to turn one, giving them a second chance to pass.

"The DRS zone will be on the last straight and the pits straight," Whiting confirmed to Autosport.

"There will be one detection zone. The initial detection will be after Turn 10, then they can have another go [on the main straight]."

The race will be the first to have two activation zones, but it won't be the last, as the FIA have also confirmed that the European round, in Valencia, will also have two.

These will be between turns ten to 12 and 14 to 17.

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Great job there Mothers Worry !  :ThumbsUp:

This doubled DRS zone could be a real interesting scenario for this GP, and I'm looking forward to seeing it. :)
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Fittipaldi to sit on steward panel in Canada

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Emerson Fittipaldi will fulfil the role of driver steward for the Canadian Grand Prix in Montreal this weekend.

The two-time world champion makes his third appearance as a steward having held the same position at last years Canadian GP as well as the Italian GP of the same year.

Fittipaldi has previously competed in Formula 1 with Lotus, McLaren and his own team, Fittipaldi Automotive, named after him and his brother, Wilson.

The outfit ran between 1975 and 1982, took part in 119 races and finished on the podium twice, both times in 1980. Keke Rosberg took third position at the Argentinian GP, with Emerson himself taking the teams second podium, also third place, at the Spanish GP.

He will be joined on the panel by Garry Connelly, an Executive Committee Member of the FIA Institute and Tim Mayer, former Cooper driver and son of Teddy Mayer, a close friend and co-founder of McLaren.



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Is the FIA or F1 paying for Connely to be there, or is it on the CAMS expense account.
Oh well, I guess we can say that's another Aussie in F1.
Maybe Australia's own will get a nod and a wink from the Stewards for a change.
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Thanks for taking the time to post the review,looking Fwd to the w/end,should be another great race.Hamilton1st-Webber2nd-Alonso3rd.Hopefully Seb. is due for a DNF.
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Canadian GP Free Practice 1 Results:

Pos   Driver   Team   Time   Gap   Laps
01.    N. Rosberg    Mercedes    1:15.591         32
02.    F. Alonso    Ferrari    1:16.139    +0.548    27
03.    M. Schumacher    Mercedes    1:16.549    +0.958    30
04.    F. Massa    Ferrari    1:16.658    +1.067    26
05.    J. Button    McLaren    1:16.676    +1.085    20
06.    L. Hamilton    McLaren    1:16.842    +1.251    19
07.    R. Barrichello    Williams    1:16.990    +1.399    28
08.    P. di Resta    Force India    1:17.294    +1.703    26
09.    N. Heidfeld    Renault    1:17.445    +1.854    28
10.    N. Hulkenberg    Force India    1:17.549    +1.958    20
11.    S. Perez    Sauber    1:17.662    +2.071    27
12.    M. Webber    Red Bull    1:17.820    +2.229    30 :aus:
13.    J. Alguersuari    Toro Rosso    1:18.458    +2.867    31
14.    V. Petrov    Renault    1:18.506    +2.915    15
15.    D. Ricciardo    Toro Rosso    1:18.648    +3.057    35
16.    S. Vettel    Red Bull    1:18.852    +3.261    8
17.    P. Maldonado    Williams    1:18.932    +3.341    20
18.    J. Trulli    Lotus    1:19.274    +3.683    29
19.    H. Kovalainen    Lotus    1:19.422    +3.831    30
20.    K. Kobayashi    Sauber    1:19.577    +3.986    26
21.    J. d'Ambrosio    Virgin    1:19.838    +4.247    31
22.    T. Liuzzi    HRT    1:19.960    +4.369    23
23.    T. Glock    Virgin    1:20.520    +4.929    21
24.    N. Karthikeyan    HRT    1:20.839    +5.248    27


Canadian GP Free Practice 2 Results:

Pos   Driver   Team   Time   Gap   Laps
01.    F. Alonso    Ferrari    1:15.107         34
02.    S. Vettel    Red Bull    1:15.476    +0.369    29
03.    F. Massa    Ferrari    1:15.602    +0.494    33
04.    L. Hamilton    McLaren    1:15.977    +0.870    26
05.    J. Button    McLaren    1:15.989    +0.882    25
06.    P. di Resta    Force India    1:16.089    +0.982    34
07.    M. Webber    Red Bull    1:16.102    +0.995    28 :aus:
08.    V. Petrov    Renault    1:16.324    +1.217    32
09.    N. Heidfeld    Renault    1:16.422    +1.315    32
10.    R. Barrichello    Williams    1:16.687    +1.580    28
11.    A. Sutil    Force India    1:16.905    +1.798    16
12.    P. Maldonado    Williams    1:16.941    +1.834    39
13.    S. Buemi    Toro Rosso    1:17.051    +1.944    32
14.    J. Alguersuari    Toro Rosso    1:17.684    +2.577    34
15.    K. Kobayashi    Sauber    1:17.757    +2.650    20
16.    J. Trulli    Lotus    1:18.470    +3.363    33
17.    H. Kovalainen    Lotus    1:18.482    +3.375    38
18.    P. de la Rosa    Sauber    1:18.536    +3.429    14
19.    N. Rosberg    Mercedes    1:18.601    +3.494    38
20.    M. Schumacher    Mercedes    1:19.209    +4.102    28
21.    T. Glock    Virgin    1:19.810    +4.703    25
22.    T. Liuzzi    HRT    1:20.284    +5.177    31
23.    N. Karthikeyan    HRT    1:20.311    +5.204    38
24.    J. d'Ambrosio    Virgin    1:20.922    +5.815    26

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Qualifying:

Pos   Driver   Team   Q1 Time   Q2 Time   Q3 Time
01.    S. Vettel    Red Bull    1:14.011    1:13.486    1:13.014
02.    F. Alonso    Ferrari    1:13.822    1:13.672    1:13.199
03.    F. Massa    Ferrari    1:14.026    1:13.431    1:13.217
04.    M. Webber    Red Bull    1:14.375    1:13.654    1:13.429 :aus:
05.    L. Hamilton    McLaren    1:14.114    1:13.926    1:13.565
06.    N. Rosberg    Mercedes    1:14.920    1:13.950    1:13.814
07.    J. Button    McLaren    1:14.374    1:13.955    1:13.838
08.    M. Schumacher    Mercedes    1:14.970    1:14.242    1:13.864
09.    N. Heidfeld    Renault    1:15.096    1:14.467    1:14.062
10.    V. Petrov    Renault    1:14.699    1:14.354    1:14.085
11.    P. di Resta    Force India    1:14.874    1:14.752    
12.    P. Maldonado    Williams    1:15.585    1:15.043    
13.    K. Kobayashi    Sauber    1:15.694    1:15.285    
14.    A. Sutil    Force India    1:14.931    1:15.287    
15.    S. Buemi    Toro Rosso    1:15.901    1:15.334    
16.    R. Barrichello    Williams    1:15.331    1:15.361    
17.    P. de la Rosa    Sauber    1:16.229    1:15.587    
18.    J. Alguersuari    Toro Rosso    1:16.294       
19.    J. Trulli    Team Lotus    1:16.745         
20.    H. Kovalainen    Team Lotus    1:16.786       
21.    V. Liuzzi    Hispania    1:18.424         
22.    T. Glock    Virgin    1:18.537         
23.    N. Karthikeyan    Hispania    1:18.574         
24.    J. d'Ambrosio    Virgin    1:19.414     
   
Q1 107% Time:    1:18.990

Ferrari seem to have a bit of speed................. :hmm:
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And Webber did not turn a wheel in session 3 due to Kers again and was not fixed for qualy so to get to within 4 /10ths is a pretty good effort
Do they even have a sparky on that side of the Garage?

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And Webber did not turn a wheel in session 3 due to Kers again and was not fixed for qualy so to get to within 4 /10ths is a pretty good effort
Do they even have a sparky on that side of the Garage?
Or an engineer? Now; about Flabio's comment that the problems always seem to be on Webber's side of the garage............
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Reckon it will be fixed for the race??????

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Reckon it will be fixed for the race??????
In my opinion Webber has made a big mistake resigning with RBR.
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Reckon it will be fixed for the race??????

I'm sort of thinking it will be working at the start of the race, then fail 4 laps in.

That'll make it a very hard race because KERS will get a good workout heading out from the hairpin, and anyone without it will drop down the field rapidly. :(
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Reckon it will be fixed for the race??????
In my opinion Webber has made a big mistake resigning with RBR.


From Autosport, I have pulled this quote from an article that sums up Webbers feelings well

   
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Webber: No rush to sort out contract   

By Jonathan Noble   Saturday, June 11th 2011, 22:20 GMT

Mark Webber says he remains in no rush to try and sort out a fresh contract with Red Bull Racing for 2012, despite claiming his current focus is on staying at the team for another year.

Red Bull Racing boss Christian Horner prompted speculation that Webber is in the driving seat to remain as Sebastian Vettel's team-mate for another year earlier this weekend when he revealed the Australian had told him he wanted to race on.

And although neither party plans to enter serious contract negotiations until the summer, Webber said in Montreal on Saturday that he saw no reason to be thinking of anything other than staying at Red Bull Racing.

"I am comfortable, mate," said Webber, when asked by AUTOSPORT about his reaction to what Horner had said:

"I'm very comfortable. I am happy here. The guys have done a phenomenal job for me in terms of on the floor. The boys and mechanics, I am very happy with all that.

"But we will just keep talking. We don't have to rush. There is time to talk so we will keep doing that."

Sums it up I think

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http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/92239

Yeah,i was about to post that,despite reports in Oz Mark hasn't resigned yet,something bubbling along in the background.
Noticed on another Forum Mark & Seb's car have KERS in different states of development in an attempt to gain its full potential,many have taken this to mean Mark's car is the guinea pig.
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.......many have taken this to mean Mark's car is the guinea pig.
Jeez; what makes people think that? ;)
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Whilst I agree the race needed to be  :redflag: due to all the standing water, there was really no need to start the race under the SC if you ask me.


Clearly there's a big issue at Circuit Gilles Villeneuve as far as drainage is concerned, and due to it being an island in the middle of the St Lawrence Seaway, it's so close to the water level, they can't really do much about it. :(
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Well wasn't that an interesting and LONG race ?  :)




Drive of the race would have to be Button from last at the end of SC period to first place!

Actually Schumacher had a mighty fine drive himself.
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Well wasn't that an interesting and LONG race ?  :)
No; because I forgot to set record up properly. :laugh2:

Replay Tuesday?

I also missed the end of Le Mans because of brain failure. :D
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that was sensational.what a marathon race full of everything an f1 fan could ask for.
i thought it very diligent of the marshal  to volunteer to use him self as a super sopper to clear water from the track, by rolling around on the ground in front of oncoming cars and picking up track debris at the same time. :rofl: :rofl:i wonder how much crap he had put on him from the boys after the race.

 

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