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FORMULA 1 GROSSER PREIS SANTANDER VON DEUTSCHLAND 2011 (Nürburgring)   





The Track











Circuit Length: 5.891km
Number of Laps: 52
Race Distance: 306km
Kerbs: Smooth
Pitlane: 422m
Pitlane loss: 21 sec
Altitude: 155m
Maximum speed: 315kph
Minimum speed: 90kph (T4)
Average Speed: 233kph
Average corner speed: 174kph
Downforce Level: High
Aero efficiency ratio: Medium
Full throttle: 66%
Longest section full throttle: 7.5s
Fuel effect: 0.4 s/10kg
Fuel consumption: 2.9kg/Lap
Braking events: 4
Brake Wear: Low
Gear changes per lap: 43
Gearbox severity: Very low
Tyre Compounds: Soft / Hard


DRS Detection Zone For German Grand Prix 2011:

It has been revealed by FIA that there will be only one DRS Zone (Drag Reduction System Zone) in Nürburgring circuit, German Grand Prix 2011. The detection point for DRS wing will start at the entrance to Turn 10. Drivers will be allowed to activate the DRS rear wing from the exit of Turn 11, This means DRS zone has been set for the straight before the tight chicane, so we should see some good overtaking.

"Nürburgring is always a challenge, usually because of the weather, which is often threatening, whatever time year a grand prix is held here," FIA race director Charlie Whiting said.




History

In 1907, Germany staged the first of the Kaiserpreis races at the Taunus Circuit. Entries were limited to touring cars with engines of less than eight litres. Italy's Felice Nazzaro won the race in a Fiat. Like the Prinz-Heinrich-Fahrt, which was held from 1908 to 1911, it was a precursor to the German Grand Prix.

The first national event in German Grand Prix motor racing was held at the AVUS (Automobil Verkehrs und Übungs-Straße) race circuit in southwestern Berlin in 1926 as a sports car race. The first race at AVUS, in heavy rain, was won by Germany's native son, Rudolf Caracciola in a Mercedes-Benz. The event was marred by Adolf Rosenberger's crash into one of the marshals' huts, killing three people. The German Grand Prix became an official event in 1929, but would not return to AVUS again until 1959, and then only once.

The Grand Prix moved to the new, 28 km (17.4 mi)-long course at Nürburgring, which was inaugurated on June 18, 1927, with the annual race, the ADAC Eifelrennen. It stayed mainly on the 22.8 km (14.2 mi) Nordschleife (North Loop) course until the 1970s, when the rival Hockenheimring would take over owing to safety concerns.

The 1930 and 1933 German Grands Prix were both cancelled because of the country's economic problems.

Starting in 1934, there were often several races each year with the so called "Silver Arrows" Grand Prix cars in Germany, e.g. the Eifelrennen, the AVUS race, and several hillclimbs. Yet it was only the Grand Prix at the Nürburgring that was the national Grande Epreuve, which counted toward the European Championship from 1935 to 1939.

After Bernd Rosemeyer and Hans Stuck scored one victory each, Rudolf Caracciola took the German GP in 1937 and again in 1939, a feat no other German driver accomplished between 1937 and 1995, when Michael Schumacher won. During this time, foreigners scored two upset wins: Italian Tazio Nuvolari in 1935 and the British Dick Seaman in 1938.

At that time, a new track had been built near Dresden, called the Deutschlandring, which was intended to host the 1940 German Grand Prix. However, because of the outbreak of World War II, the race was never run.

After WWII, Germany and German drivers were banned from international contests until 1951, so the inaugural F1 Season in 1950 did not include the German GP. The first Formula One German GP went back to the Nürburgring.

Owing to the decline in attendance after the retirement of Mercedes and Juan Manuel Fangio, the AvD returned the German GP to AVUS in 1959. Owing to the simple layout of this high speed track and several accidents, it was considered a bad move. In anticipation of 1961 rule changes in F1, the 1960 GP was held for Formula 2 cars of Porsche as well as the F2 Ferrari Dino of Wolfgang von Trips, which did not show up. This GP did not count towards the World Championships, and was also held on the shorter 7.7 km (4.8 mi) Nürburgring Südschleife (South Loop).

After the former Formula 2 rules were declared the new Formula 1, Porsche entered Formula 1 in 1961. Additional F1 races were held at their home town Stuttgart at the Solitude circuit. These races, joined together with Grand Prix motorcycle racing World Championship events, drew an average of 288,000 spectators. There were rumours that the German Grand Prix might be moved to the more popular track, yet the opposite happened, as the Solitude races were canceled after 1965, while the GP had returned to the Nürburgring Nordschleife in 1961.

In 1970, drivers asked for safety improvements on such short notice that they could not be made, and the German Grand Prix moved to the Hockenheimring, which had already been modified. After a rebuild, the Nordschleife hosted six more GPs, drawing as many as 375,000 spectators. Formula 1 finally declined to race there after 1976, with Niki Lauda's near-fatal crash sealing this decision.

From 1977 to 2006, the Hockenheimring was the German Grand Prix's permanent home, with the exception of the event in 1985, which was held on the new 4.5 km (2.8 mi) Nürburgring. In 1984 an additional F1 race already had been held at the Nürburgring following the inauguration of its modern "Grand Prix Strecke" layout. Following the success of Schumacher, this went on to become the venue for a second annual F1 race in Germany, the European Grand Prix or Luxembourg Grand Prix since 1995.

In 2006 it was announced that from 2007 until 2010, the German Grand Prix would be shared between the Nürburgring (former home of the European Grand Prix) and the Hockenheimring. The former would hold the races in 2007 and 2009 and the latter in 2008 and 2010. However, the name for the 2007 Grand Prix was later changed. While it was originally intended to be the German Grand Prix, owing to a dispute with Hockenheim over the naming rights of the race, the race was eventually held under the title "Großer Preis von Europa" (European Grand Prix). By 2009, the circuits appeared to have resolved their disputes as the Nurburgring race was held under the German Grand Prix title.

The 2010 GP, held in Hockenheim, at one stage appeared to be in jeopardy as the track owners, the city and the state of Baden-Württemberg, were not willing anymore to lose money due to the high licensing costs imposed by F1 management. In addition, talks with Bernie Ecclestone were hampered by his Hitler quotes. If the track had been relieved from being the venue, the owners were intending to returning the track back to its former layout. However, on 30 September 2009, it was announced that the circuit had agreed a deal which would keep it on the calendar until 2018, under a new deal which saw the circuit management and FOA sharing the financial burden of hosting the event.



The Technology

Tyres:

Pirelli’s Motorsport Director says: Paul Hembery: “The Nurburgring is one of the most technical circuits we face all year, with a lot of lateral energy going through the tyres, and this makes strategy very important. Although they sit next to each other in our range, there is still a significant difference between the P Zero Yellow soft and the P Zero White medium tyre, as we saw on the last occasion that this combination was used at the Grand Prix of Europe in Valencia. The biggest difference will be the weather, which could be a lot cooler than the conditions we saw in Spain. This means that we expect most of the teams to adopt a two-stop strategy, unless of course it rains, in which case anything is possible. On Friday, the teams will be evaluating a new version of the P Zero Yellow soft tyre. It’s not a big change from the current specification, but it is designed to fit in line with our latest versions of the P Zero Silver hard tyre and P Zero White medium, both of which are a little harder than their original specification in order to reduce degradation. There’s no decision yet on when we might use the new tyre yet, but it will be very interesting to hear all the feedback from the teams.â€

Aero:

The Nurburgring demands some of the highest downforce levels of the season, not only for the numerous high and medium-speed corners, but also to maintain good stability under heavy braking for the first corner and the slow chicane of turns 13 and 14. The left-right chicane of turns 13 and 14 is probably the best overtaking opportunity as it's one of the biggest braking zones of the lap. If you are following another car closely, you can pick up a good slipstream on the approach and make a lunge down the inside. Cars take it at about 100 km/h in second gear and drivers need to be aggressive with the curbs to straight-line the chicane as much as possible and carry speed through the corner.Being a classic Euro speed circuit down force will be high. Overtaking will be difficult but the addition of DRS this year throws an extra variable into the mix.

Engine/Drivetrain:

A lap of Germany from an engine point of view:

Sector one
There’s a long run from the start finish line to the first corner, the Castrol-S, a second gear hairpin where revs will drop very low: just 9,500rpm. Then it’s straight into the Mercedes-Arena; a second to third gear complex taken with an average speed of around 62 mph. Through this section the engine needs to have good braking control on the entry to corners and good traction on the exit, however also needs to be responsive enough to accelerate out of the arena down the short straight leading down to turn 5 where cars will hit 167 mph before the braking zone.

Sector two
Turn 5 is a fourth gear left hander that quickly tightens into turn 6, a right hander taken in third gear, but then it’s back on the power for another short burst before the next heavy braking zone for the Dunlop-Kehre hairpin. Like turn 1, this hairpin is taken in 2nd and engine revs drop quite low – just 10,500rpm. The driver then needs a responsive engine to accelerate for the ‘straight’ leading through turns 8 and 9. Even though turns 8 and 9 are taken in sixth at 155 mph – not normally top speed – the drivers will be flat and will pull around 3.5g through this section. They will then drop from 181 mph to 90 mph and third gear for turn 10.

Sector three
Sector three is the shortest section in time, taking around 24 seconds to complete. It’s also the highest average speed on the track and the DRS activation zone, which comes 62m after turn 11. Drivers will be able to make use of the DRS on the 755m straight from turn 11 to 13 before braking for turn 13, or the Veedol chicane, a second gear chicane that sees drivers brake from 189 mph to just 56 mph. The track then opens back out for a final sprint to the last corner, a third gear right hander taken at 75 mph, before rejoining the pit straight for another lap.




The Schedule

Fri 22 July 2011
Practice 1    10:00 - 11:30
Practice 2    14:00 - 15:30

Sat 23 July 2011
Practice 3    11:00 - 12:00
Qualifying    14:00

Sun 24 July 2011
Race    14:00

All times Nurburgring local




On the Internet

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Re: GROSSER PREIS SANTANDER VON DEUTSCHLAND 2011 22 - 24 July *SPOILERS*
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2011, 09:10:07 am »
Thanks for making the effort,should be a great W/end.
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Re: GROSSER PREIS SANTANDER VON DEUTSCHLAND 2011 22 - 24 July *SPOILERS*
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2011, 10:21:13 am »
Thanks for making the effort,should be a great W/end.
No problem and thanks for your kind words. It looks as if it could be a wet Sunday... so all bet are off. :wOOt:
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Re: GROSSER PREIS SANTANDER VON DEUTSCHLAND 2011 22 - 24 July *SPOILERS*
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2011, 05:08:41 pm »
Yep,P!ssing down at the moment according to an O/S Forum poster who lives nearby,better do a Canada and add a few hours to the PVR.
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Re: GROSSER PREIS SANTANDER VON DEUTSCHLAND 2011 22 - 24 July *SPOILERS*
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2011, 07:26:50 am »
German GP Free Practice 1 Results:

Pos   Driver   Team   Time   Gap   Laps
01.    F. Alonso    Ferrari    1:31.894         30
02.    M. Webber    Red Bull    1:32.217    +0.323    24 :aus:
03.    S. Vettel    Red Bull    1:32.268    +0.374    27
04.    F. Massa    Ferrari    1:32.681    +0.787    23
05.    L. Hamilton    McLaren    1:32.996    +1.102    18
06.    J. Button    McLaren    1:33.628    +1.734    22
07.    N. Rosberg    Mercedes    1:33.787    +1.893    33
08.    A. Sutil    Force India    1:33.832    +1.938    27
09.    N. Hulkenberg    Force India    1:33.858    +1.964    26
10.    M. Schumacher    Mercedes    1:33.863    +1.969    31
11.    V. Petrov    Renault    1:34.094    +2.200    22
12.    J. Alguersuari    Toro Rosso    1:35.115    +3.221    23
13.    S. Buemi    Toro Rosso    1:35.371    +3.477    20
14.    R. Barrichello    Williams    1:35.389    +3.495    24
15.    N. Heidfeld    Renault    1:35.444    +3.550    22
16.    S. Perez    Sauber    1:36.371    +4.477    22
17.    H. Kovalainen    Team Lotus    1:36.392    +4.498    29
18.    P. Maldonado    Williams    1:36.842    +4.948    29
19.    K. Kobayashi    Sauber    1:36.882    +4.988    27
20.    N. Karthikeyan    Hispania    1:38.504    +6.610    22
21.    K. Chandhok    Team Lotus    1:38.765    +6.871    19
22.    D. Ricciardo    Hispania    1:39.279    +7.385    23 :aus:
23.    T. Glock    Virgin    1:40.109    +8.215    23
24.    J. d'Ambrosio    Virgin    1:40.428    +8.534    22



German GP Free Practice 2 Results:

Pos   Driver   Team   Time   Gap   Laps
01.    M. Webber    Red Bull    1:31.711         34 :aus:
02.    F. Alonso    Ferrari    1:31.879    +0.168    38
03.    S. Vettel    Red Bull    1:32.084    +0.373    28
04.    F. Massa    Ferrari    1:32.354    +0.643    36
05.    M. Schumacher    Mercedes    1:32.411    +0.700    31
06.    N. Rosberg    Mercedes    1:32.557    +0.846    32
07.    L. Hamilton    McLaren    1:32.724    +1.013    28
08.    N. Heidfeld    Renault    1:33.098    +1.387    17
09.    V. Petrov    Renault    1:33.138    +1.427    22
10.    A. Sutil    Force India    1:33.211    +1.500    34
11.    J. Button    McLaren    1:33.225    +1.514    17
12.    P. di Resta    Force India    1:33.299    +1.588    34
13.    S. Perez    Sauber    1:33.113    +2.402    34
14.    R. Barrichello    Williams    1:34.344    +2.633    34
15.    J. Alguersuari    Toro Rosso    1:34.487    +2.776    37
16.    K. Kobayashi    Sauber    1:34.491    +2.780    35
17.    P. Maldonado    Williams    1:34.996    +3.285    35
18.    H. Kovalainen    Team Lotus    1:35.753    +4.042    42
19.    T. Glock    Virgin    1:36.940    +5.229    32
20.    K. Chandok    Team Lotus    1:37.248    +5.537    33
21.    J. d'Ambrosio    Virgin    1:37.313    +5.602    33
22.    V. Liuzzi    Hispania    1:38.145    +6.434    31
23.    D. Ricciardo    Hispania    1:40.737    +9.026    5 :aus:
24.    S. Buemi    Toro Rosso              3
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Re: GROSSER PREIS SANTANDER VON DEUTSCHLAND 2011 22 - 24 July *SPOILERS*
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2011, 09:04:15 pm »
Thanks for getting up the preview MW, I just simply ran out of time with other things on my plate this week.

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Re: GROSSER PREIS SANTANDER VON DEUTSCHLAND 2011 22 - 24 July *SPOILERS*
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2011, 11:02:41 pm »
 :ThumbsUp: Good job Mark Webber. Go for it.  :ThumbsUp:
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Re: GROSSER PREIS SANTANDER VON DEUTSCHLAND 2011 22 - 24 July *SPOILERS*
« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2011, 11:26:35 pm »
What a blistering lap for Hamilton, pushing Vettel off the front row. ;)

Great work for Webber  :aus: to get it on to pole.

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Re: GROSSER PREIS SANTANDER VON DEUTSCHLAND 2011 22 - 24 July *SPOILERS*
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2011, 07:00:44 am »
Yes; it was an intense qualifying session. Good to see some variety on the grid.
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Re: GROSSER PREIS SANTANDER VON DEUTSCHLAND 2011 22 - 24 July *SPOILERS*
« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2011, 08:45:43 am »
yes, freaking great lap by hamster boy. good to see vettel off the front row. hopefully he wont have a good start and then not have a good race 'cause he cant overtake. hope webber wins it, the start will be very interesting.

can i also say, that this is one of my favourite tracks, love the undulation, and the cambers, both on and off.
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Re: GROSSER PREIS SANTANDER VON DEUTSCHLAND 2011 22 - 24 July *SPOILERS*
« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2011, 01:30:04 pm »
Yeah, Mark's mind/body seem to be in a good place,first turn is going to be messy if Mark gets sick of being jumped at starts.
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Re: GROSSER PREIS SANTANDER VON DEUTSCHLAND 2011 22 - 24 July *SPOILERS*
« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2011, 03:44:50 pm »
yes, starts seem to be his real weakness, well not his strength anyway.
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Re: GROSSER PREIS SANTANDER VON DEUTSCHLAND 2011 22 - 24 July *SPOILERS*
« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2011, 11:49:20 pm »
Congratulations Hammers. :ThumbsUp:

Best race of the season so far?
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Re: GROSSER PREIS SANTANDER VON DEUTSCHLAND 2011 22 - 24 July *SPOILERS*
« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2011, 12:09:16 am »
Well that was interesting.... I thought that RBR might have been on to something with a late tyre change for Webber, but the undercut really worked out well for Hamilton.

So what will happen with Alonso stopping out on the track with possibly no fuel left in it ?


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Re: GROSSER PREIS SANTANDER VON DEUTSCHLAND 2011 22 - 24 July *SPOILERS*
« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2011, 06:51:28 am »
FIA confirms no penalty for Webber or Alonso

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The FIA has confirmed that neither Fernando Alonso or Mark Webber will face sanctions for breaking the regulations after the Red Bull driver stopped to give the Spaniard a lift to the pits.

Alonso was told by the team to pull over and stop the engine after it became apparent that he may not have enough fuel for the mandatory checks after the race - one litre must be available for inspection.

Webber then chose to stop and give the 29-year-old a lift back to the pits, as both drivers made it onto the podium having finished 2nd [Alonso] and 3rd [Webber].

The governing body also confirmed that they were able to extract the minimum amount of fuel required, therefore the two-time champion won't face any penalties, despite the regulations stipulating cars must proceed directly to parc ferme after the race.


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Re: GROSSER PREIS SANTANDER VON DEUTSCHLAND 2011 22 - 24 July *SPOILERS*
« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2011, 11:28:06 am »
Enjoyed the race,3rd was probaly the worst Mark could have finished thou.
RB pit stops just don't seem right,both at the time and in hindsight.
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« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2011, 12:57:31 pm »
Enjoyed the race,3rd was probaly the worst Mark could have finished thou.
RB pit stops just don't seem right,both at the time and in hindsight.
Pit stops also stumped Ferrari's efforts.

In my opinion this was the most interesting race of the season so far. There was racing all the way up and down the field.

Lots of overtaking from real racers and some people who just need others' faulty pit stops to make a pass........
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Re: GROSSER PREIS SANTANDER VON DEUTSCHLAND 2011 22 - 24 July *SPOILERS*
« Reply #17 on: July 25, 2011, 01:43:51 pm »

Lot's of overtaking from real racers and some people who just need others' faulty pit stops to make a pass........

Yeah, if not for the fumbled stop of Massa's, Vettel didn't look like getting past.

Bit of a shame that, as Vettel got a 'free kick' from that.


Actually Riccardo finished his second race, and this time finished over a lap in front of last placed Chandhok too !
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