Mark Webber v Red Bull

[bpratt]

Clearly it is very easy to say how much of a team player Vettel is, and how team orders were never an issue when there was no need to issue them because the lead their numero uno driver was in at the time, and not being troubled by Alonso.


If Webber was leading with Vettel in second, and Alonso was in 5th spot on the track, then I'm pretty confident that towards the end of the race Webber would've had a sudden engine 'misfire' or missed gear change.

[Mothers Worry]

Briatore questions Webber's position at RB

From the f1times.com:

Briatore questions Webber's position at RB

Friday 27th May 2011

Flavio Briatore, the former team principal of Benetton and Renault, has spoken out about the treatment of his driver, Mark Webber, at Red Bull.

The Italian questioned Webber's role within the team, highlighting the fact that when any bad luck strikes, it's more often than not on Webber's side of the garage.

"Every time there is a problem, it is with Webber, and although in life you have to be lucky, it’s strange when all you get is bad luck," he told AS.

"I think that team is big enough for both drivers to have equal opportunities," he added.

Briatore is of the impression that Webber isn't being given the same treatment as team favourite Sebastian Vettel, urging the Austrian outfit to give him equal footing to compete.

"I believe unquestionably in [Christian] Horner’s equality, but Webber needs to be able to compete in order to challenge for the title, for the spectacle, like Prost and Sennadid.

"Maybe they think it’s better to have a clear first driver. I always had a number one and number two with a chance of being competitive and working together fairly. This works better than having a number one and number two working for themselves only.

"Except with Fernando and Schumacher, I never counted on one driver only," he concluded.

Emphasis added.

Fair comment Flabby but you should have said it in German for full affect.

I have to give it to the Flabmaster; he always speaks his mind.

[Ian G.]

I think he just giving Mark a bit of support in his battle with Marko which is starting to get very public and probaly also positioning mark for a Team change.
http://www.f1sa.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=29090:f1--helmut-marko-mark-webber-can-take-points-off-other-formula-1-drivers&catid=1:f1&Itemid=157

[vicfrog]

  my thoughts on helmut marko
wish webbers misses would bitch slap the one eyed unequal opportunity austrian

[Supersleeper]

I sent Ann an email thisafternoon about an unrelated matter. I wrote "and can you poke Helmut in his good eye for me when you see him next", but deleted it before I sent the email.  Didn't think it was the right thing to say given the circumstances. 

[vicfrog]

 :laugh2:your to nice ss

[blacknwhite]

I think he just giving Mark a bit of support in his battle with Marko which is starting to get very public and probaly also positioning mark for a Team change.
http://www.f1sa.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=29090:f1--helmut-marko-mark-webber-can-take-points-off-other-formula-1-drivers&catid=1:f1&Itemid=157

What an absolute F***knuckle Marko is...right or wrong that is a shocking thing to say on so many levels, harmony, motivation not to mention the implication of what he really  wants to say ...that we do not need to nobble him as he is not good enough to threaten Das Vunderkinder and all he is capable of is stuffing everyone else up
I think Webber should really start playing hardball and do what Vettel did in Turkey and stuff worrying about the fact he is a teamate , time to make it plain there will be no Massa scenario with Mark!
That will get Horners feet a tapping!

[Mothers Worry]

I'm sure Webber appreciates your support guys.     

AMF will soon be holding German lessons for all concerned parties wanting to send the odd fan email to one-eye.

 

[vicfrog]

webber maybe staying for another year

Team boss Christian Horner has revealed that Mark Webber is set to remain with Red Bull Racing for at least one more season.

Webber is currently on a year-by-year contract after driver and team agreed it was the best move going forwards for one of the older drivers on the grid, with the Australian insisting he would only continue while he was still enjoying being behind the wheel.

Having been one of the championship contenders last season, Webber has endured a more challenging start to 2011 and is already 64 points behind team-mate Sebastian Vettel with just six races run.

Despite that tough start to the campaign, Webber is now reported to have told the team he is keen to continue for another season with Red Bull happy to keep the Australian for another year.

"Mark has made it clear he wants to continue with Red Bull next year,” Horner told the BBC. "One of the questions we had was does he still have the motivation and desire.

“We believe he does and we're happy to continue."

[Mothers Worry]

Horner downplays Webber retirement talk

From thef1times.com:

Horner downplays Webber retirement talk

Monday 01st August 2011    

Red Bull's team principal, Christian Horner, has downplayed rumours that Mark Webber will retire at the end of 2012, making next year his last season in Formula One.

The rumour was sparked after Helmut Marko, advisor to team owner Dietrich Mateschitz, told Australia's channel One, that Webber would most likely retire next season, meaning the team would need to find a replacement, probably that of Daniel Ricciardo.

"He's [Webber] probably going to retire [next year]," said the Austrian. "We would need to find one of our juniors who can replace him."

Horner though has told Sporting Life that the comments were probably 'lost in translation', adding that Webber could be in F1 for another two to four years, though he didn't mention whether that would be with Red Bull, or a competitor.

"I think you'll find Helmut said 'possibly'. I think Helmut was probably focusing more on Ricciardo, and these things can obviously get lost in translation.

"Mark could have another two, three or four years in F1. That's down to him because he is still very competitive, very hungry."

The Australian is expected to sign a one-year contract extension to remain at the Milton Keynes based outfit alongside teammate Sebastian Vettel.

Having Marko make comments about any Australian driver is repulsive; my opinion.

[Ian G.]

Vettel quoted overnight as saying he will let Mark pass him if possible.Looking for confirmation but i guess we will hear more this W/end.

[bpratt]

Vettel quoted overnight as saying he will let Mark pass him if possible.Looking for confirmation but i guess we will hear more this W/end.

Well if the Red Bull Racing Team want to have a 1 - 2 in the WDC this year, they better do the team thing to maximise Webber's points in this and the remaining races this year.

It's what you call working for the benefit of the team, somethign they've talked about all year when they're supported Vettel all the time.

[blacknwhite]

Horner downplays Webber retirement talk

From thef1times.com:

Horner downplays Webber retirement talk

Monday 01st August 2011    

Red Bull's team principal, Christian Horner, has downplayed rumours that Mark Webber will retire at the end of 2012, making next year his last season in Formula One.

The rumour was sparked after Helmut Marko, advisor to team owner Dietrich Mateschitz, told Australia's channel One, that Webber would most likely retire next season, meaning the team would need to find a replacement, probably that of Daniel Ricciardo.

"He's [Webber] probably going to retire [next year]," said the Austrian. "We would need to find one of our juniors who can replace him."

Horner though has told Sporting Life that the comments were probably 'lost in translation', adding that Webber could be in F1 for another two to four years, though he didn't mention whether that would be with Red Bull, or a competitor.

"I think you'll find Helmut said 'possibly'. I think Helmut was probably focusing more on Ricciardo, and these things can obviously get lost in translation.

"Mark could have another two, three or four years in F1. That's down to him because he is still very competitive, very hungry."

The Australian is expected to sign a one-year contract extension to remain at the Milton Keynes based outfit alongside teammate Sebastian Vettel.

Having Marko make comments about any Australian driver is repulsive; my opinion.

I wonder would the phrase "F*** OFF Marko" get lost in translation?

[Mothers Worry]

Horner downplays Webber retirement talk

From thef1times.com:

Horner downplays Webber retirement talk

Monday 01st August 2011    

Red Bull's team principal, Christian Horner, has downplayed rumours that Mark Webber will retire at the end of 2012, making next year his last season in Formula One.

The rumour was sparked after Helmut Marko, advisor to team owner Dietrich Mateschitz, told Australia's channel One, that Webber would most likely retire next season, meaning the team would need to find a replacement, probably that of Daniel Ricciardo.

"He's [Webber] probably going to retire [next year]," said the Austrian. "We would need to find one of our juniors who can replace him."

Horner though has told Sporting Life that the comments were probably 'lost in translation', adding that Webber could be in F1 for another two to four years, though he didn't mention whether that would be with Red Bull, or a competitor.

"I think you'll find Helmut said 'possibly'. I think Helmut was probably focusing more on Ricciardo, and these things can obviously get lost in translation.

"Mark could have another two, three or four years in F1. That's down to him because he is still very competitive, very hungry."

The Australian is expected to sign a one-year contract extension to remain at the Milton Keynes based outfit alongside teammate Sebastian Vettel.

Having Marko make comments about any Australian driver is repulsive; my opinion.

I wonder would the phrase "F*** OFF Marko" get lost in translation?

Heheheh.   

[Mothers Worry]

Well once again Webber fails to impress.

He says he is staying with RBR next season because it's the best team.

He managed to turn a second place grid position into a fourth place in India while Vettel romped away with it; again. I think we can forget about a RBR 1-2 in the WDC.

So he's in the best team but what is he going to do with it? Why is he not succeeding in a car that is supposed to be the best in the field?

He would have been better going to Ferrari and finishing his career with an established and traditional marque, no matter how patchy their form has been this year.

Sorry to go tall poppy on you Mark Webber but I'm asking: what's the point?

We fans would like to have one thing to cheer about before the 2011 train wreck comes to a halt.

[Ian G.]

Yeah,disappointing year,at least he's got the starts sorted,those mid -year GP's were a joke. Journo's that claim to know him say its the  tyres,"off camera" he really lets fly about Pirelli but its the same for everyone.
Next year will be interesting,i can't see much changing as Seb. is obviously the golden child  but you never know,Seb.'s due for some bad luck.