No Turkish GP in 2012

[Bumble1290]

ISTANBUL, April 22 (Reuters) - The Turkish Formula One Grand Prix faces the axe next year due to a disagreement with Bernie Ecclestone over payments for the race, the head of the Istanbul Chamber of Commerce said on Friday.

"It looks like the Formula One race will not be held in Istanbul next year," Murat Yalcintas said on his Twitter account.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2011/04/22/motor-racing-prix-turkey-idUKLDE73L01920110422

Sad to see this track go as it usually provides good racing and the drivers enjoy racing there. It was also one of Tilke's better creations. Looks like Bernie is opening up slots to fit in the US and Russian GP's. Nothing is safe when it comes to Bernie.

[bpratt]

Like you said, Istanbul has proved to be the less boring Tilke-domes.

Whilst it might be nice to see US and Russian GP's, it's a shame that this is likely to be the Tilke track that gets the axe.


I guess losing this one is a whole lot more palatable than losing say Spa or Silverstone.

[bradk12fan]

Like you said, Istanbul has proved to be the less boring Tilke-domes.

Whilst it might be nice to see US and Russian GP's, it's a shame that this is likely to be the Tilke track that gets the axe.


I guess losing this one is a whole lot more palatable than losing say Spa or Silverstone.

Honestly, I'm not a huge fan of F1, mainly because there are no Americans competing in F1 at the moment, but a lot of Americans, most that I know anyway, are not happy that Austin will be hosting the US GP. The way we see it is, why should there be a US GP, if no one from the US can win it?

It's just my opinion, and I'm sure that others feel differently, but, I honestly will not watch the US GP until someone from the US actually has a chance to win it.

[bpratt]

Like you said, Istanbul has proved to be the less boring Tilke-domes.

Whilst it might be nice to see US and Russian GP's, it's a shame that this is likely to be the Tilke track that gets the axe.


I guess losing this one is a whole lot more palatable than losing say Spa or Silverstone.

Honestly, I'm not a huge fan of F1, mainly because there are no Americans competing in F1 at the moment, but a lot of Americans, most that I know anyway, are not happy that Austin will be hosting the US GP. The way we see it is, why should there be a US GP, if no one from the US can win it?

It's just my opinion, and I'm sure that others feel differently, but, I honestly will not watch the US GP until someone from the US actually has a chance to win it.

For many years we had an Australian Grand Prix, yet we had no Australian competing in it.

Many true motorsport fans followed F1 regardless of there being a local driver competing for their country, and I'm pretty sure there must be many of them in the USA, otherwise why would there be a demand for a US GP ? 


Of course there are also many people that are simply not remotely interested in Formula One at all, yet are big motorsport fans of their own favourite variety.

Then again, having your own driver in any International category is sure to get a lot more interested in it.

[Bumble1290]

Honestly, I'm not a huge fan of F1, mainly because there are no Americans competing in F1 at the moment, but a lot of Americans, most that I know anyway, are not happy that Austin will be hosting the US GP. The way we see it is, why should there be a US GP, if no one from the US can win it?

Like Bpratt said, I follow F1 not for the nationalities of the drivers, but because it's the pinnacle of motorsport, although with the changes to the rules every five minutes I'm beginning to wonder right now about that.

So for the sake of the discussion who today in US motorsport could rise to the challenge of the political, ego driven world we call F1. Scott Speed certainly couldn't cut the mustard when he got his chance, USF1 well that was a just an embarrassment for everyone concerned.

The door is open list away.


Edit: fixed quote tags.

[WilliamsF1]

I think Alexander Rossi is America's biggest hope, and I personally think he will do very well once/if he reaches F1.

[bradk12fan]

Like you said, Istanbul has proved to be the less boring Tilke-domes.

Whilst it might be nice to see US and Russian GP's, it's a shame that this is likely to be the Tilke track that gets the axe.


I guess losing this one is a whole lot more palatable than losing say Spa or Silverstone.

Honestly, I'm not a huge fan of F1, mainly because there are no Americans competing in F1 at the moment, but a lot of Americans, most that I know anyway, are not happy that Austin will be hosting the US GP. The way we see it is, why should there be a US GP, if no one from the US can win it?

It's just my opinion, and I'm sure that others feel differently, but, I honestly will not watch the US GP until someone from the US actually has a chance to win it.

For many years we had an Australian Grand Prix, yet we had no Australian competing in it.

Many true motorsport fans followed F1 regardless of there being a local driver competing for their country, and I'm pretty sure there must be many of them in the USA, otherwise why would there be a demand for a US GP ? 


Of course there are also many people that are simply not remotely interested in Formula One at all, yet are big motorsport fans of their own favourite variety.

Then again, having your own driver in any International category is sure to get a lot more interested in it.

Honestly, I have not heard anyone here in the US care for F1, the only people I know of that are excited are the people of Austin, Texas

[Oldtony]

I guess the problem for F1 in the US is the media and the marketing.
Be it business, politics, sport or just general news the US media just doesn't seem to get the fact that, while very important, it isn't the only place in the world. Spend a little time in the States and you very soon loose touch with what is going on in the rest of the world unless it is a major disaster or in some way directly affects the US or US people. The pity of it is when Americans travel, or when you get a chance to talk to them on their home turf they are wonderful people.
But we shouldn't complain, one of the people most to blame for the way that is developing was born in Australia and got his power base from here. Lot to answer for our Rupert.
The US has produced some great F1 people going back as far as Harry Schell, Phil Hill, Dan Gurney, Pete Revson, Mario Andretti etc. and a lot of technical people and ideas that have changed the game.
F1 was popular in the US for quite a while with events like Sebring, Watkins Glen, Long Beach, Las Vegas and the Indy Road course. Probably the reason it became less popular was the great racing provided by the Champ Car series for many years which gave America home grown open wheel racing at a high standard. The war between Champ Car and Tony George sort of killed off both the CC and IRL as real competitive series and open wheel racing lost it's profile.
The more recent people who have tried to cross over from US racing to F1 just haven't made the grade unless you count Jacques Villeneuve.

[bradk12fan]

I guess the problem for F1 in the US is the media and the marketing.
Be it business, politics, sport or just general news the US media just doesn't seem to get the fact that, while very important, it isn't the only place in the world. Spend a little time in the States and you very soon loose touch with what is going on in the rest of the world unless it is a major disaster or in some way directly affects the US or US people. The pity of it is when Americans travel, or when you get a chance to talk to them on their home turf they are wonderful people.
But we shouldn't complain, one of the people most to blame for the way that is developing was born in Australia and got his power base from here. Lot to answer for our Rupert.
The US has produced some great F1 people going back as far as Harry Schell, Phil Hill, Dan Gurney, Pete Revson, Mario Andretti etc. and a lot of technical people and ideas that have changed the game.
F1 was popular in the US for quite a while with events like Sebring, Watkins Glen, Long Beach, Las Vegas and the Indy Road course. Probably the reason it became less popular was the great racing provided by the Champ Car series for many years which gave America home grown open wheel racing at a high standard. The war between Champ Car and Tony George sort of killed off both the CC and IRL as real competitive series and open wheel racing lost it's profile.
The more recent people who have tried to cross over from US racing to F1 just haven't made the grade unless you count Jacques Villeneuve.

Well, I've heard both good and bad about F1 over the years personally, and I'm sure that other have too. But, some Americans don't care for F1 because there are no Americans in F1. Some simply don't like road course or street course racing. And others, including myself, don't like the comments that some F1 drivers and the FIA have made over the years. Personally, I have not watched an F1 race since 2006, but, I have watched Indycar since 1999

[Bumble1290]

I guess the problem for F1 in the US is the media and the marketing.
Be it business, politics, sport or just general news the US media just doesn't seem to get the fact that, while very important, it isn't the only place in the world. Spend a little time in the States and you very soon loose touch with what is going on in the rest of the world unless it is a major disaster or in some way directly affects the US or US people. The pity of it is when Americans travel, or when you get a chance to talk to them on their home turf they are wonderful people.
But we shouldn't complain, one of the people most to blame for the way that is developing was born in Australia and got his power base from here. Lot to answer for our Rupert.
The US has produced some great F1 people going back as far as Harry Schell, Phil Hill, Dan Gurney, Pete Revson, Mario Andretti etc. and a lot of technical people and ideas that have changed the game.
F1 was popular in the US for quite a while with events like Sebring, Watkins Glen, Long Beach, Las Vegas and the Indy Road course. Probably the reason it became less popular was the great racing provided by the Champ Car series for many years which gave America home grown open wheel racing at a high standard. The war between Champ Car and Tony George sort of killed off both the CC and IRL as real competitive series and open wheel racing lost it's profile.
The more recent people who have tried to cross over from US racing to F1 just haven't made the grade unless you count Jacques Villeneuve.

Well, I've heard both good and bad about F1 over the years personally, and I'm sure that other have too. But, some Americans don't care for F1 because there are no Americans in F1. Some simply don't like road course or street course racing. And others, including myself, don't like the comments that some F1 drivers and the FIA have made over the years. Personally, I have not watched an F1 race since 2006, but, I have watched Indycar since 1999

Tell you what, give F1 a chance this season as the last two races have been top notch viewing, without being dramatic it's been edge of your seat racing, China being one of the best races I've seen in a long long time.

[WilliamsF1]

I guess the problem for F1 in the US is the media and the marketing.
Be it business, politics, sport or just general news the US media just doesn't seem to get the fact that, while very important, it isn't the only place in the world. Spend a little time in the States and you very soon loose touch with what is going on in the rest of the world unless it is a major disaster or in some way directly affects the US or US people. The pity of it is when Americans travel, or when you get a chance to talk to them on their home turf they are wonderful people.
But we shouldn't complain, one of the people most to blame for the way that is developing was born in Australia and got his power base from here. Lot to answer for our Rupert.
The US has produced some great F1 people going back as far as Harry Schell, Phil Hill, Dan Gurney, Pete Revson, Mario Andretti etc. and a lot of technical people and ideas that have changed the game.
F1 was popular in the US for quite a while with events like Sebring, Watkins Glen, Long Beach, Las Vegas and the Indy Road course. Probably the reason it became less popular was the great racing provided by the Champ Car series for many years which gave America home grown open wheel racing at a high standard. The war between Champ Car and Tony George sort of killed off both the CC and IRL as real competitive series and open wheel racing lost it's profile.
The more recent people who have tried to cross over from US racing to F1 just haven't made the grade unless you count Jacques Villeneuve.

Well, I've heard both good and bad about F1 over the years personally, and I'm sure that other have too. But, some Americans don't care for F1 because there are no Americans in F1. Some simply don't like road course or street course racing. And others, including myself, don't like the comments that some F1 drivers and the FIA have made over the years. Personally, I have not watched an F1 race since 2006, but, I have watched Indycar since 1999

Just choose a driver/team and follow them, who cares where they come from . F1 over the past 2 seasons has been fantastic, with a lot of overtaking and unpredictable races.

[bradk12fan]

Well, the only driver that I've really been following in F1 is Lewis Hamilton, and it's comments that other drivers made about him that have made me think less of F1 as a whole

[Ian G.]

Good for Oz. if Turkey drops out.

I noticed a Twitter that the Austin race will be called the "GP of the Americas"(or something similar),not sure thats the right title,has a elitist,wankerish tone to it IMO.

[DanielAquilina]

I think no Turkish Grand Prix is a good thing, the racing there has never been spectacular but this year wasn't too bad, I'm guessing the Grand Prix of the Americas will replace it?

[bpratt]

I think no Turkish Grand Prix is a good thing, the racing there has never been spectacular but this year wasn't too bad, I'm guessing the Grand Prix of the Americas will replace it?

That's if we do have a GP of the Americas in the first place.

Welcome to AMF Daniel !