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Re: KERS (Kinetic Energy Recovery Systems)
« Reply #80 on: November 12, 2008, 04:32:16 pm »
It seems Montezuma is now adding his two lire to the KERS timings.   What he forgets to add is the fact that Ferrari are known to be behind in the 'KERS race'..... I wonder if that is not the true reason behind his reticence.  It seems that Ferrari, one of the few teams never to question hurling a few extra million in the pot to speed up development are now complaining about the cost v benefit curve...... :RollEyes:  (maybe he wants to recoup the cost of the new TV he now needs!)

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Di Montezemolo critical of KERS

Ferrari president Luca di Montezemolo has criticised the introduction of Kinetic Energy Recovery Systems (KERS) in Formula One next year - claiming they are too expensive and questioning whether they will have any value for improving road car technology.

Formula One teams will be allowed to run KERS from the start of next season in a move that will improve F1's green credentials and fast-track car manufacturers' knowledge of energy recovery systems.

But di Montezemolo has spoken out against the move – saying he believes it is wrong to introduce KERS because the costs of developing the technology are so high.

"The future looks very complicated with these new regulations," he was quoted as saying by Autosprint. "We feel introducing KERS already this year was a mistake, even though we're in favour of F1 being a technological springboard. But the energy recovery system in the races will in any case be very different from the road system.

"It's true, however, that the costs are prohibitive, and with FOTA we've studied important proposals in order to meet Max Mosley's fair requests regarding spending cuts. The engine for three GPs for ten million euros means the cost is halved compared to 2008. In 2011 we'll get to five millions, compared to 20 millions from four years before then. On top of that, there is the reduction of testing to 15,000 kms.

"I think we need to rely on good sense: the general one, and the FIA world council's one. Our proposals approved for 2009 set an example. We have two objectives: to help the smaller teams, and to allow F1 to still do research and innovation, also for fuel suppliers. It's unthinkable that the big car manufacturers can accept to re-badge the engines built by someone else."
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Re: KERS (Kinetic Energy Recovery Systems)
« Reply #81 on: November 12, 2008, 09:10:46 pm »

McLaren to work with Freescale on KERS


McLaren Electronic Systems is to work with Freescale Semiconductor to develop its Kinetic Energy Recovery System from 2010. (note it says from 2010, not for 2009

The two parties believe that their collaboration will both improve the McLaren Formula One team's KERS, and help such systems filter down to road car technology, where Freescale is a leader in its field.

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"This joint KERS development project with McLaren Electronic Systems is on the cutting edge of automotive technology," said Freescale spokesman Steve Wainwright.

"As the leading supplier of automotive semiconductors, Freescale can help MES make a difference in their quest for advanced powertrain control technology and energy-efficient systems.

"Formula One is one of the most exciting and fastest moving laboratories for automotive technology. We will work hard to help ensure that the technologies developed in concert with MES will rapidly find their way into mainstream cars to the benefit of consumers and our automotive customers eager to receive energy-efficient solutions."
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Re: KERS (Kinetic Energy Recovery Systems)
« Reply #82 on: December 04, 2008, 12:49:49 am »


Willis: KERS won't help overtaking

Red Bull Racing's technical director Geoff Willis says the introduction of KERS to Formula One next season won't make much of a difference to overtaking.

He doubts that the push to pass affect that will be created by the recovered energy will spice up the action on track, and instead believes that it will be the new aerodynamic regulations that increase overtaking.

"I think the teams will soon learn how to use and optimise the KERS, but it won't help overtaking so much," he told Italian magazine Autosprint. "It's a technology developed on road cars that will find a limited application in F1.

"The new aerodynamics regulations will be the biggest factor at changing racing by creating new overtaking opportunities.

"The reduction in size of the rear wing will allow the drivers to race more closely, because the loss of downforce won't be as radical while in the slipstream."

But Willis says that teams will deliberately develop their cars to make it more difficult for rivals to follow in their slipstream.

"Probably one aerodynamic development will be to disturb the air flow of the following car in order to make your own car less prone to be overtaken," he added. :RollEyes:
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Re: KERS (Kinetic Energy Recovery Systems)
« Reply #83 on: December 10, 2008, 03:31:49 am »

Haug has KERS doubts


Massive expenditure on new systems
   

Amid Honda's shock exit and the perceived need to cut costs, F1 should call off the introduction of Kinetic Energy Recovery Systems (KERS) next year.

That is the view of Norbert Haug,
motor racing chief of the German manufacturer Mercedes-Benz.

Given Honda's departure due to the global slump in road car sales, Haug told the Swiss publication Motorsport Aktuell 'the time for games is over' as F1 seeks to slash out of control expenditure.

Numerous teams have recently tried to postpone the planned introduction next year of KERS, but outfits like BMW Sauber are in favour of the energy-recovery technology.

Haug said KERS "is an extremely expensive exercise" and said the saving to the engine budgets by scrapping it would be at least 25 percent.

He explained that the KERS concept should not be sidelined entirely, but in the current financial climate the prudent action would be to put it aside and "think about it later."

KERS is not mandatory for the 2009 season and is being pushed forward by FIA President Max Mosley as he seeks to make the series more relevant to future road car technology.
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Re: KERS (Kinetic Energy Recovery Systems)
« Reply #84 on: December 10, 2008, 09:01:52 am »
Why put it on hold now that most if not all the teams have already spent millions on developing KERS ?

Where is that saving money ?  other than the obvious that their ongoing development costs won't be headed in the kers direction.


The way I see it, dropping kers for 2009 is a waste of money already spent, particulary when it appears that kers will happen at a later date, perhaps only just a year later.


Although having said that, they should alter the kers regulations to allow more/better usage of kers to make it more relevant to on road usage, which in turn makes it all more relevant to the manufacturers.
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Re: KERS (Kinetic Energy Recovery Systems)
« Reply #85 on: December 10, 2008, 09:39:16 am »
I think if teams are so financially strapped and desperate (read Honda) scrapping something they have yet to prove works properly (or at all) is probably more relevant than going ahead with another white elephant. Cutting losses seems to be the order of the day these days.........
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« Reply #86 on: December 10, 2008, 12:45:41 pm »
This is the first bit of technology that might be useful outside F1 in years. Banning it, or even delaying it now, would give a huge amount of ammunition to all those people in industry who see racing as a waste of reources.
Add to that the probable out cry of the greens, and the fact that a huge amount of expenditure on F1 events is coming from Governments and the cost of developing KERS could look like the best investment in saving the Formula that could be made.
Just put all the wind tunnels on hold and invest what is saved in KERS.
By the way I think the main think to read in Norb's comment is that McMerc were concentrating so hard on development to get Lewis's title that they are behind on development for 2009 sprcs.
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Re: KERS (Kinetic Energy Recovery Systems)
« Reply #87 on: December 10, 2008, 01:00:37 pm »
This is the first bit of technology that might be useful outside F1 in years. Banning it, or even delaying it now, would give a huge amount of ammunition to all those people in industry who see racing as a waste of reources.
Add to that the probable out cry of the greens, and the fact that a huge amount of expenditure on F1 events is coming from Governments and the cost of developing KERS could look like the best investment in saving the Formula that could be made.
Just put all the wind tunnels on hold and invest what is saved in KERS.
By the way I think the main think to read in Norb's comment is that McMerc were concentrating so hard on development to get Lewis's title that they are behind on development for 2009 sprcs.
I'm not saying your wrong but the horse may already have bolted. Everything has been done to his sport in the past month to make it irrelevant. I don't think KERS alone can save it.
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« Reply #88 on: December 10, 2008, 05:19:46 pm »

By the way I think the main think to read in Norb's comment is that McMerc were concentrating so hard on development to get Lewis's title that they are behind on development for 2009 sprcs.


I think there is likely more truth in that...... we know its the case with Ferrari as well, who wont even be testing on track any of their developments, and Toyota we know, despite their perceived advantage of previous (JGT) KERS experience and no need last year to be developing their 08 car beyond saving face, are still not in a position to be even thinking of it for at least the first half of 2009.  It seems that other than BMW the only other one that was looking in any way advanced with KERS was Honda, and they are implying that KERS and 09 regs development costs were the straw that broke the camels back when combined with the 40% downturn in car sales ......

Agree that with the KERS it is a key area of cost justification for F1, but maybe by spreading the KERS investment over another 12 months, and bring it in with the standard engine makes SOME sense.  I know (well I think :unsure:) KERS is an add on thing that can be adapted more or less to other engines relatively easily, so does it make sense to bring the 09 optional stuff in at a time when hopefully we will have seen some recovery in the auto market thanks to less panic (im not saying the panic isnt founded in the current scenario!)   Then they could have the option of making KERS less restricted.... by that I mean, unlimited recovery, 4 wheel v 1 wheel etc etc.

Im not saying that IS the way to go, just offering it as an alternative longer term spreading of the financial burdens of developing both the new bodywork and the KERS at a point when it looks to be all change on engines for 2010 anyway.   This sort of process would then reduce the need, or at least justify a reduction in testing for 09, which would be ongoing, and then also a big reduction in wind tunnel use for 09 and beyond. ;)
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Re: KERS (Kinetic Energy Recovery Systems)
« Reply #89 on: December 11, 2008, 03:56:44 am »


Lauda backs calls for KERS delay
Mosley's KERS initiative driving up costs costing teams tens of millions each ahead of 2009 season...


Niki Lauda has voiced support for the majority of F1 teams that would like to postpone the introduction of expensive Kinetic Energy Recovery Systems (KERS) in 2009.

In the wake of Honda's exit from the sport citing financial reasons, Mercedes' racing chief Norbert Haug said an immediate way to slash engine budgets by 'at least 25 percent' would be to call off the KERS implementation.

He is not alone in his belief, following several attempts at FOTA meetings this year for a unanimous vote to delay the technology.

It is believed the subject will again arise during the team alliance's meeting with Max Mosley in Monaco on Wednesday, but BMW Sauber is staunchly using its veto vote to insist that the KERS debut remain on track.

Lauda said the current conditions makes plugging ahead with KERS illogical.

"The current topic is, for reasons of cost-cutting, using the engines now for three or four races (instead of two)," he said in interview with the German language sports magazine Kicker.

"At the very same time every team is in the middle of an incredibly difficult development phase, spending 20 or 30 million each, on gaining 80 horse power for a few seconds per lap," Lauda added. 

FIA President Max Mosley, however, said KERS would be 'the last thing' he would abolish, insisting that other  ultra high-revving engines do nothing for the sport.

I think personally that is a long way from the truth with what Max is saying in the case of  seamless gearboxes, and particularly lightweight materials... the importance of low weight and low resistance / highly efficient transmissions must surely be one way where road cars will be looking closely for efficiencies potentially spawned by F1 stuff.  High revving engines no argument, but that is already pretty well put to bed and agreed, with the fine tuning of whether manufacturer/Cosworth produced.



Slightly off topic I can picture those ..."80 horse power for a few seconds per lap" words coming out of Lauda's mouth.... very much like his retirement announcement (He was due to drive the Brabham with the Cosworth engine the team would be using for 1980, at the 1979 Canadian GP, Ecclestone having finished with the 12 cylinder Alfa. 

Lauda came back after 1st practice and retired from the sport on the spot, saying  "I was bored with driving round in circles, especially if I had to listen to an 8 cylinder engine"

Lauda flew out of Canada before P2..... Ecclestone forced to find a lucky Ricardo Zunino, in the paddock as a spectator, and more or less ask him if he had plans for the weekend! He was fitted into the Brabham for P2 and the race, having to borrow Lauda's helmet, at least for P2 IIRC.)
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Re: KERS (Kinetic Energy Recovery Systems)
« Reply #90 on: December 11, 2008, 05:00:23 am »


In more KERS news, Ferrari have admitted to being behind the 8 ball a bit....

Magneti Marelli playing catch-up


   
Aldo Costa, Ferrari's Technical Director, has singled out 'the famous KERS' as the most challenging aspect of the 2009 regulations.

"It has to be compact and lightweight, affecting the handling of the car as little as possible," he told Italy's La Gazzetta dello Sport.

Costa reveals that, to date, Ferrari has not track-tested its KERS system for 2009, and the debut of the energy-recovery technology is not due to arrive this week at Jerez or at the final test of the year at Portugal's new Algarve track.

Germany's Auto Motor und Sport reports that Ferrari and electronics partner Magneti Marelli's main problem is with the electric motor.

Ferrari spokesman Luca Colajanni confirmed: "We wont begin testing KERS until our new car."

The F2009 is scheduled to roll out in January, and it is understood that Ferrari has not decided whether to target the first race of the 2009 season for the system's debut. ;)
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Re: KERS (Kinetic Energy Recovery Systems)
« Reply #91 on: December 13, 2008, 05:56:24 am »

Standardisation of KERS in 2010?


FIA backtracking on expensive programme?


With the voluntary introduction of Kinetic Energy Recovery Systems (KERS) next season, the F1 teams have been hard at work developing the new technology.

Estimates of the costs incurred vary wildly but it is safe to assume that most of the top teams in the sport have spent many tens of millions of dollars each as they get to grips with the systems.

The rules on the introduction of KERS for next year remain unchanged following today's meeting of the World Motor Sport Council, but this could well change for the 2010 season.

"In the short term, KERS is part of the 2009 regulations, but is not compulsory," a statement from the FIA read. "For 2010 FOTA is considering proposals for a standard KERS system."

The FIA is awaiting such proposals, but given the vast sums of money poured into the technology already, such a move to a standard system could be seen as a failure of the original proposals which were aimed to make Formula One something of a test bed for future road car development.

Any standard component will undoubtedly reduce costs to the teams, but in the case of KERS this effectively results in the closure of ongoing independent research and development by the manufacturer-backed teams, something that each was keen to develop for eventual inclusion in their road cars.

The notion of developing new ‘road-relevant’ technology in F1, which could afterwards be applied to everyday vehicles, was an important part of the KERS development process. However, despite the possible standardisation in Formula One, and in view of the obvious potential the technology offers, development work will surely continue in each manufacturer's road car-based engineering divisions.

To my thinking surely the best opportunity for getting usable and beneficial F1 developed systems with Road car viable options is going to come from a multi faceted aproach such as will not happen with a standard system. 

As we know there are many variables in ways to introduce KERS, from the flywheel method not favoured it would seem by current F1 (although Williams purchased a business that specialise in them)  Surely with much of the spending having been made in the development side allowing each manufacturer to use what it feels is best for both the F1 side and also road cars.

It strikes me as being totally wasteful to be talking of a standard KERS system now, 12 months down the track from the original announcement, the teams ? manufacturers having already spent '$ hundreds of millions' collectively and to date developed on the basis of each to their own methods..... effectively,  standardising it for 2010 will make much of the expenditure already made, and development undertaken to be totally irrelevant. 

If they want the manufacturers to develop these new concepts for an ultimately standardised part then individual development is not the answer, rather it should be a joint (ie all team / manufacturers) project, from  contribution to the development costs through to the the technology input.  This could well be the case for all standardised parts planned for the future.   With all the brains that exist in F1 tech departments surely a collective brainstorming approach is going to make the ultimately best product at the end.
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Re: KERS (Kinetic Energy Recovery Systems)
« Reply #92 on: December 13, 2008, 06:22:02 am »
Agreed entirely EB. To go further the ban on refueling and tyre warmers effectively means that pit stops are a waste of time. This puts a higher level of importance on the possibility of on tracl pasing, and on fuel efficiency. Instead of standardising KERS it would seem advisable to allow that as a prime area of differentation by increasing the limits. or freeing up entirely, the power generated and stored by KERS.
And that is an area of development that will bring about huge improvement in city driving efficiency, the area that most auto manufacturers need to improve.
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« Reply #93 on: December 13, 2008, 08:55:51 am »

Standardisation of KERS in 2010?


FIA backtracking on expensive programme?


With the voluntary introduction of Kinetic Energy Recovery Systems (KERS) next season, the F1 teams have been hard at work developing the new technology.

Estimates of the costs incurred vary wildly but it is safe to assume that most of the top teams in the sport have spent many tens of millions of dollars each as they get to grips with the systems.

The rules on the introduction of KERS for next year remain unchanged following today's meeting of the World Motor Sport Council, but this could well change for the 2010 season.

"In the short term, KERS is part of the 2009 regulations, but is not compulsory," a statement from the FIA read. "For 2010 FOTA is considering proposals for a standard KERS system."

The FIA is awaiting such proposals, but given the vast sums of money poured into the technology already, such a move to a standard system could be seen as a failure of the original proposals which were aimed to make Formula One something of a test bed for future road car development.


What a joke.... all these millions of dollars thrown down the dunny for something that from 2010 is going to have its development totally squashed, when they should be looking at expanding the use and amount of power it can be used during a race.

What drugs are these clowns on ????
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Re: KERS (Kinetic Energy Recovery Systems)
« Reply #94 on: December 13, 2008, 10:42:37 am »
Does this decision remind you of the single race tyre for 2005 then back to multiple sets for 2006. Another example of development money down the drain.


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« Reply #95 on: December 13, 2008, 02:06:19 pm »
Yeah; and apart form that what may be good is multiple engine manufacturers and the single KERS manufacturer. That way the Formula gets the engine they want and KERS could be regulated in a way that allows legal tuning for maximum effectiveness to allow the teams to compete on a technological level. That way there can be cake and it can be eaten at the same time eh; Max?
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« Reply #96 on: December 16, 2008, 10:54:31 am »

Just to change the train of thought from F1 to LMS / ALMS type Sports Cars, Peugeot have launched their KERS assisted Hybrid 908'Hy'.

Having joined Audi in providing that diesels can dominate at Le Mans, Peugeot now wants to show that hybrids -- yes, hybrids -- can compete at the top tier of motor sports. The French automaker has unveiled a  diesel-electric racer it plans to run in next year's Le Mans series.

The 908 HDi FAP "Hy" made a few laps at Britain's  Silverstone racetrack last weekend before the final round of the Le Mans series, running a kinetic energy recovery system similar to what we'll see in Formula 1 cars next year. The 908 "Hy" works a lot like a Prius on steroids, with a lithium-ion battery and an 80-horsepower electric motor that can propel the car on electricity alone or provide added power at high speed or during passing moves.

Peugeot says the car is ready to race, but the question remains whether it will be allowed to.

The Automobile Club de l'Ouest -- which sets the rules governing the Le Mans series -- has announced a slew of rule changes meant to eliminate the advantages diesels have enjoyed over gasoline racers, but it's done nothing to allow hybrids onto the grid for 2009. But Peugeot will not be deterred and, according to Britain's Car magazine, says it'll run the 908 Hy as a "Double-Oh" non-competitor so it can continue developing the technology.

"As a car manufacturer, we can use motor sport as a research and development tool for the Peugeot brand as a whole," says Michel Barge, director of Peugeot Sport. "Running a hybrid car in endurance racing would give Peugeot the chance to gain extremely valuable experience that would benefit the development of production cars.

The hybrid system has three main components -- a 60 kilowatt (80 horsepower) gear-driven electric motor in place of a conventional starter motor, 600 lithium-ion battery cells divided into 10 packs and a power converter just behind the front left wing to control the flow of energy between the batteries and the electric motor.

Peugeot says the 908 Hy can run in three modes: full electric at low speeds (as in pit lane),  diesel engine only or a combination of the two. Regenerative braking captures energy that would otherwise be lost as heat during braking and stores it in the battery packs. Peugeot says the system will recover enough energy to provide an extra 80 horsepower for 20 to 30 seconds per lap. The stored energy can be automatically deployed under acceleration, or used at the driver's discretion when, say, passing another car. If not used for additional acceleration, the recovered energy can simply augment the diesel engine, cutting fuel consumption 3 to 5 percent -- no small advantage in a 12- or 24-hour endurance race.

Peugeot isn't the first to put a hybrid drivetrain in an endurance racer. Earlier this year, the Gumpert put a hybrid drivetrain in one of its Apollo supercars and entered it in the 24 Hours of Nurburgring, where its fastest lap was 9 minutes 24.885 seconds.  Also of course the Toyota Supra used successfully in JGTC

UPDATE  Corsa Motorsports and Zytek are working on a hybrid racer for the American Le Mans Series.   AFAIK Panoz built the Q9 hybrid to run in the series in the late 1990s.

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Re: KERS (Kinetic Energy Recovery Systems)
« Reply #97 on: December 16, 2008, 11:35:17 am »
Don't know whether it was tounge in cheek but someone at Silverstone said they should be banned because they were too quiete coming down pit lane under electric power. :laugh2:
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« Reply #98 on: December 18, 2008, 07:03:45 am »
Kubica expects KERS to hamper him

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Robert Kubica believes the added weight of the new-for-2009 Kinetic Energy Recovery System will penalise him - but hopes BMW still uses the device as its new car has been designed around it.

BMW Sauber have been a major supporter of KERS, while some other teams have suggested that its introduction is an unnecessary expense amid the current round of cost reductions. Several squads will start the season without the device as they are still working to perfect it.

Kubica said he had mixed feelings about KERS, because as one of the heavier drivers on the grid he thinks the added weight it brings will affect his performances, but he thinks it is now too late to abandon the system.

"Our car for sure will also run without KERS," he told the official Formula One website.

"And it is my opinion that the car built without KERS can go quicker compared to the car that was built with KERS but is not using it. KERS needs space, and if you then don't use it, it means that you are wasting space. We are analysing what is better and in which direction the development should go.

"My demand is that we are use the most powerful and best performing car at the first race. I would prefer the car without KERS in that I have a bigger disadvantage with KERS. And this is a fact that all taller and heavier drivers agree on, as there is additional weight on the car, but the minimum weight of the car plus driver has stayed the same as last year, so this seems like a disadvantage."

The Pole said BMW are likely to wait until the end of winter testing before deciding whether to use KERS in the early races, as it was still hard to quantify its benefits.

"I think it is a bit too early to say exactly what the difference is because KERS is at quite an early stage, although we have already put in a lot of work," said Kubica.

"It is still almost impossible to explain the difference in how the car feels with or without KERS. From my personal point of view - as I am a tall and heavy driver - it is not really positive, as the weight of KERS is influencing quite a lot, especially when it comes to weight distribution, so it is limiting me quite a lot.

"It is nice when you press it as you feel an additional boost. Yes, it works, but we have to see in the later stages when we are closer to the first race which configuration is the quicker one - I think this is the most important issue."

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Re: KERS (Kinetic Energy Recovery Systems)
« Reply #99 on: December 19, 2008, 08:39:32 am »
Ferrari prepared for KERS delay

From autosport.com:

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Ferrari prepared for KERS delay

Thursday, December 18th 2008, 12:01 GMT

Ferrari are making contingency plans in case their KERS (Kinetic Energy Recovery System) is not ready for the start of the season.

The Italian team are still playing catch up with their development of KERS, but are determined to try and get it on the car for the start of the season.

However, they are not willing to take risks in case they face fresh hurdles before Melbourne - so are preparing themselves in case they need to race without it.

Ferrari's technical director Aldo Costa told Gazzetta dello Sport: "The objective is to arrive at the first race with a functioning and competitive KERS, but we also have a B plan: not a different car but a version without KERS."

Engine chief Gilles Simon added: "We are late with the KERS. We prepared a hybrid F1 car to test it, but the system isn't ready. In February we'll understand how to go to the first grand prix."
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